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Recognized
as one who can educate, motivate and entertain, Jim Tunney has worked
with many Fortune 500 companies, from Apple to Xerox, All-State to
State Farm, Cadillac to Toyota, Frito-Lay to Nabisco, Arco to Unocal,
teaching the skills needed to set S.M.A.R.T. goals and produce effective
action.
Drawing
from 28 years' experience as an educator and 31 years as an NFL referee,
Jim emphasizes ways to develop and monitor accountability and builds
teams that work with synergy and organizational responsiveness. His
essays on motivation, productivity and self-management appear in business
and trade magazines. In his book, Impartial Judgment, "the Dean of
NFL referees" calls pro football the way he sees it. The book chronicles
his career in the NFL. Jim Tunney, Ed.D., is a CSP and CPAE and has
received both of the National Speakers Association's highest awards
for professional excellence. |
| GS: |
How
did you happen to get into the speaking business? |
| JT: |
Well,
I started in the business in the early 60s as a high school principal.
During that time, I was asked to give talks on education to several
of the local community groups. Around that time was when I joined
the NFL. So those service clubs wanted to know what was said in the
huddles. They wanted NFL stories, which used to be called Jock Strap
stories. I did those for a while then I thought - There has got to
be more to this. See, early on I wrote a speech called The Game Is
People. I talked about the people in the game like George Halas and
Vince Lombardi, the people who were ball stars. These people were
well known in the 60s and I really enjoyed that. That went along
for several years until the early to mid-70s when someone came along
and said, Why dont you join NSA? Id never heard of it, so I went
to the second convention ever held by the NSA. I joined NSA while
being a high school principal and Superintendent and I never looked
back. In 1978, I left that business to do speaking full-time. The
speaking had me working with companies. I helped organize and turn
them into positive motivational ideals. |
| GS: |
Okay,
what were the two biggest obstacles you had to overcome? |
| JT: |
Moving
from the education market to the business market was one of the first
obstacles I had to confront. I could talk to school people, teachers,
and peer groups that were contingent on educational issues. The business
market was totally different and I had no credibility in business.
I was never in sales, nor was I the owner of a company; so I had to
translate the kinds of things I saw from education and the NFL to
the business world. It wasnt a hard translation to do. It just frightened
me because then I began to question, Do they really want to hear
about football? I figured most wanted to hear about war stories or
things that they could apply to their jobs. Today, like over the last
twenty years of doing this professionally, I have realized that all
people can relate to sports and sports oriented stories. I could tell
any one of my athletic stories and transition it to show a relation
to business, and people could really begin to connect. I saw this
through many personal responses after the speeches. In my first book,
Impartial Judgment, I touch base with the idea Can I hit the Pitching;
am I good enough to do this full-time? As living proof, I left a ten-year
Superintendent job in the school system that offered benefits and
a pension. I dropped it all to become an entrepreneur, a national
speaker, without any guarantees. Most of my friends, other educators,
questioned if I could really make it as a full-time speaker - I have
never looked back. This career has been wonderful for me. Transitioning
from an education field to the business industry and gaining the level
of confidence I had to possess to succeed were the two hardest obstacles
for me to overcome. |
| GS: |
The
famous book As a Man Thinketh by James Allen tells us when we "Conquer
doubt and fear.we conquer failure." Let me ask you.What is the
biggest thing you do to help you conquer doubt and fear? |
| JT: |
I
dedicated my book, Impartial Justice, to my father, who taught me
to believe in myself. I do believe that that is the key to all the
good fortune or success that I have had. Believing I could do anything
has always enabled me to face problems head on. My positive affirmation
comes from not being afraid of a problem, facing it, and knowing I
can handle it. Have the knowledge and understanding that you may not
win all of them, you may not be successful every time, but you did
your best. I also believe you can do good for people by doing your
best. See, that will help others do their best. I know I will make
it! Just like writing the Chicken Soup for the Sports Fans Soul. Many
people wonder will it be successful? I know it will be successful.
I will make sure of it. With sports athletes like Joe Montana, many
outside people questioned him in the beginning because he was not
a very secure player. Being at the bottom of the draft choice list,
there was doubt. Any of the other players would tell you there was
no fear, because when Joe got in the huddle and called a play, they
knew it would work. Why? - because Joe could make it work. Its the
same situation. I know it will work because I believe it will. |
| GS: |
What
2 books have influenced you the most? Why? |
| JT: |
So
many have been great for me. The first one would have to be Think
and Grow Rich, by Napoleon Hill. It really proclaims self-affirmation
and growth - just believing in yourself. In 1975, I went into a used
bookstore to find it, after hearing many people discuss it. Not ever
seeing it before, I was able to find it and bought it for thirty-five
cents. That book has been around for a long time, but after reading
it, I found that the philosophy there was something I could really
work with for myself. I wasnt interested in becoming rich financially;
I was looking to find my own enrichment. I wanted to find my own ability
to survive, achieve and move forward. The second book that really
influenced me would have to be Viktor Frankl's book, Man's Search
for Meaning. Frankl mastered for me what life is all about. He expressed
that out of all of the freedoms you have, and out of all the freedoms
that can be taken away from you, the only one that cannot really be
taken is the freedom to choose your attitude. Your attitude with which
you approach any problem or opportunity is your conscious choice.
Whenever I hear someone say, Well, Im just a negative person,"
or "Im just that way, I say, No, thats how you choose to
be. If you dont want to be negative, then you dont have to be negative.
You choose your own future and attitude in that way. Thats what I
learned from Viktor Frankl. |
| GS: |
What
is your greatest Bill Gove story you could share with our readers? |
| JT: |
After
I joined the National Speakers Association in 1975, I attended my
first convention in which two hundred and nineteen people came, and
maybe one hundred and fifty others stayed for the luncheon. That was
the first I had ever seen Bill Gove. He was the speaker on that day.
I watched as Bill took that microphone with the hard wire cord and
walked through that audience. I studied him as he worked that crowd
and talked with people; he made them laugh, listen and learn with
ease. I thought if I ever grow up, I want to be like Bill Gove. I
watched him mesmerize the crowd. It wasnt until two years later when
I went to a convention in Arizona with Mark Victor Hansen that I said
Id like to meet Bill Gove. After several years of going to these
conventions, Id finally mustered up the courage to introduce myself
after Mark Victor said, I know Bill. Come on. Ill introduce you.
He did and Bill sat down with us for over an hour and a half just
talking. We had a wonderful visit and at the end of our conversation
Bill said, Next year well meet in Louisville - Lets have lunch
together. Little things like that made me realize what kind of man
Bill Gove really is. He was willing to take time with a very new,
unknown speaker. Yeah, Id been a referee in the Super Bowl, but I
didnt have the level of confidence and assurance of guys like Bill
Gove, Don Hutson, Mike Frank, Dave Yoho or Ty Boyd. I just didnt
have that. I was a low level speaker trying to make a business out
of this. Bill took the time and interest in me to be my mentor. He
helped me with ideas and led me to discover what it was going to take
for me to rise to the top. |
| GS: |
You
have already made your first million. What advice can you give the
rest of us who may still be looking to make our first million? |
| JT: |
First
of all, dont focus on making your first million. Focus on doing things
for other people. My new book, Chicken Soup for the Sports Fans Soul
tells a story written by Jeff Sloanman. He is a great golfer and has
made several millions. He often stays with a friend in Pebble Beach
when he plays in the AT & T Pro Am Tour. His story explains his defeat
one year when he lost the finals to Mark Omara. At the end of his
visit his friends son, Derrick, about sixteen years old had asked
Jeff to teach him a thing or two. After the tournament, Jeff decided
to find Derrick and his dad. They were out on the course hitting golf
balls when he found them. He decided maybe he could help Derrick and
continued to play three holes with them before leaving that Sunday.
The friend thanked Jeff for spending the time with his son and explained
that they would have understood if he wasnt able to show up. Jeff
replied, There is no better cure for disappointment than going out
and helping somebody else. I think if you go out and help someone
the millions will come. NSA has been a great thing for me; it has
helped me help others. If you are looking to improve your business
NSA is the place to be. I think of it like a health club, you can
join a health club; but if you dont go and participate it doesnt
have any value. Like Ziglar said years ago, You can get all you want
out of life just by helping others get what they want out of life.
Thats what NSA is all about, thats what Bill Gove is about, and
thats what making your first million or second million is all about.
Doing or performing your passion is the goal. If speaking is your
passion, than do it. Go do it and the rest will come. |
| GS: |
How
importantly would you rank mental toughness and the ability to communicate
as it relates to your success and why? |
| JT: |
Im
not really sure you can ever really define mental toughness so everyone
can understand it. Mental toughness for me is the fourth in one on
the goal line, score tied. Its you at the free zone line and youve
got two shots to win the game; or three in two with the bases loaded
and youre the batter - youve got to break through fear. In the Chicken
Soup for the Sports Fans Soul; Sammy Lee says, You can be a diving
champion if you can break through your fear. That is if the focus
of winning is stronger than your focus on failure. Joe Montana said
the same thing when asked by Bill Crisman, Are you ever afraid when
you go into a game? He said, Yes, Im always afraid. If youre not
afraid of losing than winning really isnt that important. That is
mental toughness. Focusing on winning breaking through the fear of
losing and thinking you can win, you can achieve it if you would just
focus on where you are going. Mental toughness applies to even that
six-year old playing soccer on the field, just the fact that you are
willing to try something and not being afraid to fail. If you fail
it is okay. You didnt invent failure its been around all the time.
You are going to have set backs. Break through the failure, know you
can accomplish it and believe you can accomplish it. |
| GS: |
If
you had to start over again.what would you NOT do again? |
| JT: |
There
are a lot of things. I think I have been very fortunate over the years
in building the speaking business that I have. Ive listened and learned
from a lot of people. Ive been in the business for twenty-five years
and Im still seeking advice from people. Things I would do, would
be to network with people like is done in NSA. Being a part of a group
helps you to relate and allows you to share stories back and forth.
You cant live long enough to experience everything, so we can all
learn like Pat Roberts. That is from OPE - other people's experiences.
If I had to do it over again, I would make it more of a point to learn
all I could from other people and their experiences. |
| GS: |
What
is the reason most people don't achieve their major goals and dreams? |
| JT: |
I
think most people become non-achievers because of many reasons, but
the most dominant has to be their lack of courage to make it through
and keep it going. Thats like when I was ten and I had a basketball.
We would play down at the corner lot of the basketball playground.
Everyday I had to be in for dinner. Well, one day these other kids
didnt want to go home; they wanted to stay longer and play. I said,
No, I have to go home. I need my basketball. They wouldnt give
me back my basketball. I went home and told my mom and dad they wouldnt
give back my basketball. I was really upset and crying. Thats when
my dad said, Come on. Well go get it. We walked down there, then
my dad said, Okay, pick out which one you want to fight. I didnt
want to fight anybody, but he showed me I had to have the courage
to fight to get my ball back from them. I didnt want to fight, but
after a few blows and my dad supervising, it was over. Dad made sure
no one was hurt then said, Come on thats enough. Lets get out of
here. That day I earned a lot of respect for myself being able to
face an aggressor. Thats a major thing people have to be able to
do - face the aggressor. Having courage today brings confidence that
I know I can do it and then work at it. The thing that happens to
a lot of speakers is theyre ready to go in the beginning, and then
one thing sets them back. All of a sudden, theyre ready to give up.
Instead of quitting, you should work harder. Prepare and work at it
- I learned that from ballgames. Id watch people walk on the field
in the Super Bowl, hustle around, and if I wasnt prepared as an official,
I could have been really scared. Being prepared made it so that I
wasnt afraid to take my place in the arena. |
| GS: |
Who
were your role models/mentors, and what is it that you saw in them? |
| JT: |
Overall,
my father. He died when I was thirty-five years old, but in that short
time I had a good chance to watch him operate as a great father and
teacher. He was an administrator who refereed football and basketball,
so I got to go to a lot of games with him. What I admired was that
he wasnt afraid to take his place, even in the arena. He always put
his name and reputation on the line - every time. My dad also had
a lot of friends who were also educators and administrators, so I
watched them. Even as a kid on the playground, I sought people older
than myself. The older people knew more than I did, they had more
experiences, and have all been able to teach me something. I learned
several things simply by losing. Years later as a principal, I would
call my dads friends and others older than me and ask, Do you mind
if I call or ask questions? I did the same thing when I began officiating.
I knew that was how I was going to learn more. I would say my dad
and his friends, along with my uncle, were a great influence on me;
so were the school administrators, and other officials who were over
me. Ive just tried to learn from the people who have already been
there and done that. |
| GS: |
Can
you tell us about your new book? |
| JT: |
My
newest book is Chicken Soup for the Sports Fan's Soul. Its one hundred
and one stories of inspiration, insight and humor. It has a lot of
funny stories of athletes and a lot of heartwarming things. One of
the Globe Trotters for instance, shares the fact that many people
and children dont see color. Kids just befriend one another and play;
they dont see that skin type as a difference. Thats how I was raised.
There is a story in there by Jack Kemp, former presidential nominee.
He wrote a story, The Inspiration of a Football Huddle, where the
team stuck together in a situation and proved to be much stronger.
I use the analogy your hand is important and all its five members.
When
you bring them together it makes a fist. A fist is always stronger
than an open hand. Lesley Visser, the first woman sports reporter
for the Boston Globe said, Sports is the ultimate passport. Sports
is that ultimate passport of common ground. It holds no barriers for
race, religion, color, or creed because you are all talking of sports.
There are great stories of little league coaches and parents. Many
lessons can be learned by being in sport. Sports are competitive and
fun. They teach discipline, how to bounce back, working with others
and reaching goals. Its a great metaphor for life. In fact, the first
quote from our book was written by a fellow named Barry Mano. He stated,
Sports is life with the volume turned up. That is what this book
is about - life with the volume turned up. Everything you do regularly
in life, you now see in the sports pages of Chicken Soup for the Sports
Fan. It gives you a lot of belief in the things that you're doing
well. It also gives you some ideas of how you can do things better.
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| GS: |
How
can our readers get this new book? |
| JT: |
You
can get this book in any local or hometown bookstore or you can e-mail
orders through jim@jimtunney.com.
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| GS: |
Out
of all the NFL coaches youve seen in the past forty years, who would
you say is the greatest coach, and why did you have so much respect
for him? |
| JT: |
Thats
a hard question because every time they fire a coach in the NFL, another
one comes along and does a great job, so its hard to say. If I had
to pick just one and only one, it would probably Vincent Thomas Lombardi.
In my first book, Impartial Justice, I wrote an entire chapter on
Lombardi called Strong Understandings. It was very enlightening
to me in 1960 when I met Lombardi, to see how similar he and my father
were personality-wise. Their discipline, ideas, personal drive, want
for achievement, just the overall interior that was my father was
also in Vince Lombardi. He was a great disciplinarian and very driven
with focus. I always arrive to a meeting on Lombardi time - that
means you are fifteen minutes early. Thats what was expected. So,
if I chose just one as the leading authority coach - it would be Vincent
Lombardi. |
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Contact
Info.:
Jim
Tunney Associates, Inc.
P.O. Box 1500
Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA 93921
Phone: 831-649-3200
Fax: 831-649-3210
E-mail: info@jimtunney.com |
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